Hi Seeker,
I am not a very good typist and I do not know how to use many of the features here. I hope that you do not stoop to that level.
I grieve for your total loss of faith but that is indeed your choice. Please do make an earnest effort to investigate what you now consider 'gospel'. As ex-JW, we all have replaced our belief systems at least once. You know the drill if you have read the ways that cults operate.
We came out of a religious system deliberately designed to ensnare us until physical, regarless of what happened along the way. The WBTS systematically tried to destroy all of our beliefs in orthodxy, or prevent us from the beliefs in the first place. We have all seen them use any resource at hand so that when we say, "who can we go away to", Christianity is the last choice one would make.
They skillfully used a combinations of Biblical truths to tell extensive lies; ideas and partial quotes from liberal, naturalist theologians; portrayed the Evil One in such a superstitious and comical way that none leaving would believe he even exists. This is the genius of his ultimate lie: how can one believe in God when there really is no devil?
Look into C.S. Lewis' "Screwtape Letters". Thanks and take care.
R.
Shining One
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Alan F's flaming arguments and insults
by Rex inhi alan, .
have you ever looked at the carved up mountains, hills and valleys?????
have examined the remarkable similarity to the mount st. helen's canyon that was carved our very quickly?
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Shining One
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The Skeptic's Worst Nightmare (S)
by Shining One incheck some of this out and you may see why there are two sides to the issues that are portrayed as so one sided here.
you will immediately smell the b.s.
emanating from the skeptic's book of bible stories!
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Shining One
as far as talk origins and the host of logical traps....
ALL OF THE EVIDENCE IS NOT IN! Science is in a constant state of change and in dispute. It is not the 'one, big happy family' of belief that you portray. The turnover and change is constant. Theories are routinely modified and discarded. All of the evidence is not in and it will never be in
Physics is the biggest threat to the hole filled world of the naturalist (First Cause, the slowdown of the universe). Irreducible complexity: the DNA structures, the useless of partially developed organs. Then you have the bias of 'scholars' who preside over fact-think like Big Brother, the tenure of profs that are tied to a political agenda: convincing all who come before them for learning that there is no God, no supernatural....."no, we can't have any of that here.If it doesn't fit into our theories then just throw it out!"
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The Skeptic's Worst Nightmare (S)
by Shining One incheck some of this out and you may see why there are two sides to the issues that are portrayed as so one sided here.
you will immediately smell the b.s.
emanating from the skeptic's book of bible stories!
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Shining One
Hi Tetly,
You said:
>rexilus,
>this challenge applies to you as well:
i would like one link from you that proves that we were created by god. i want full proof, not just circular logic. i want evidence that not only turns the theory of evolution on it's head, but also does a better job of explaining the data and answering where we come from, how we evolved, and what we can expect to find in the future.
i await your evidence for creation.
1) First Cause.
2) Irreduciable complexity of DNA, organs, animal and plant reproduction in this ecosystem.
(There is no macro-evolution but there is micro-evolution: adaptations can and do happen, no one has proved that the species make the jump into other species.)
3) The Bible, with reservations:
It is not a science book, nor is that its intended purpose. It is not a geology book. It addresses what 'science' or human reasoning and logic are overwhelmed by: The magnificence of the universe which speaks of the inconcievable wonder of a being that resides in eternity!
4) I am here and I have in fact communicated (and still do) with the person of Jesus Christ. I know He lives and my faith is built on Him.
>also, while you are at it, please also address each of these questions from talk origins. if you want to be taken seriously in a scientific sense, then you must be able to address these questions in a credible manner:
http://talkorigins.org/faqs/fabnaq.html
http://talkorigins.org/faqs/stumpers.html
The above is sufficient for any reasonable person to lose any faith they have in naturalism.
I have not looked at this for years but will do so again.
>i await your answers for creation.
I await your conversion.
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Barf alert.......
by nicolaou inrelax, just listen to the tone of my voice.
accept what i say and when i click my fingers do just as i command .
*** w67 6/1 p. 338 move ahead with jehovahs organization ***.
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Shining One
I am pleased when I meet a JW at my door or if I spot a car group.I keep handy an Awake from the previous times before the WBTS changed the 'promise' from Jehovah. This allows me to show them firsthand one of the falsehoods. If I can get them to sit down and look at a Watchtower article I let them 'teach', then when I hear a scripture out of context I go to work, often from their own Bible.
Good post, friend.
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The Skeptic's Worst Nightmare (S)
by Shining One incheck some of this out and you may see why there are two sides to the issues that are portrayed as so one sided here.
you will immediately smell the b.s.
emanating from the skeptic's book of bible stories!
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Shining One
Good Reasoning Itsallgoodnow!!!
>Hmmm. Your "logic" works both ways, doesn't it.
It does indeed work both ways, that's been one of my points! MY belief has one big advantage....the evidence that demands a verdict: the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ is at the core of all Christian belief. Without it there is no Christianity! My belief is not blind faith, though neither is a naturalist's. My faith is based on the person of Jesus Christ, historical and personal.
I see creation all around me; I see the evidence for Christ; I ask Him into my life; He responds and I communicate with Him and He with me every day. Look at Romans 1, Romans 3, Romans 6 and Romans 10, then 1 Corinthians 15 and see what you find. If you have any trouble pinpointing what I have seen, feel free to ask.
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The Skeptic's Worst Nightmare (S)
by Shining One incheck some of this out and you may see why there are two sides to the issues that are portrayed as so one sided here.
you will immediately smell the b.s.
emanating from the skeptic's book of bible stories!
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Shining One
Science is hard. Belief is easy.
That's true but belief is what backs up 'naturalism' just as it backs up 'religion'. In fact, it takes more belief and faith to believe the present 'scientific' claims than it does.......scripture!
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The Skeptic's Worst Nightmare (S)
by Shining One incheck some of this out and you may see why there are two sides to the issues that are portrayed as so one sided here.
you will immediately smell the b.s.
emanating from the skeptic's book of bible stories!
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Shining One
We have lots of Neanderthal specimens:
Hey RUM,
These are very long lived humans, not another type of man. Also, why do you think a older species would have a bigger brain than 'modern man'? De-volution! The world is decaying, the universe is slowing down, it is in the midst of entropy.
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The Skeptic's Worst Nightmare (S)
by Shining One incheck some of this out and you may see why there are two sides to the issues that are portrayed as so one sided here.
you will immediately smell the b.s.
emanating from the skeptic's book of bible stories!
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Shining One
Uhhh Tetly,
Similiarity does not mean 'same species' nor does it constitute proof. otherwise we wpuld hear it trumpeted throughout the world: "missing link found!!!" Remember the drawings from the "monkey trial", how those Great Intelligent Scientists extrapolated a complete lineage of evolution from a single molar? It was later found to be a hog's tooth, how appropriate! I wonder how many Piltdown Man shulls make up that exhibit?
Apes are 97% like us in the DNA (as far as our knowledge goes in that) and that still does not make them anyhthing close to 'same species' or even 'previous species'. If you keep telling yourself evolution has been proved you are in a fantasy world of pink, invisible unicorns! LOL
Have a nice day,
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Christian answers to the Atheist Bible: Presupposing your beliefs
by Rex inhere is a very insightful article from ken ham....at the end is my own testimony in capsule form.
when the person you talk to on creation insists that you leave the bible out of it, they are really saying the deck should be stacked one way.
(my note: you've heard it this way, "religion does not speak on science at all.
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Shining One
>Ugh, not true, just not true.
http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=84
You bit into a apple that has too many worms, Dantheman.
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Alan F's flaming arguments and insults
by Rex inhi alan, .
have you ever looked at the carved up mountains, hills and valleys?????
have examined the remarkable similarity to the mount st. helen's canyon that was carved our very quickly?
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Shining One
Thanks for praising Jesus online, Tetly, even with the 'H' inserted you just praised the God-man you always portray as myth!. LOL
Praise the Lord God Almighty (El Shaddai)